Mary O'Rourke (Fianna Fail)

I will not go. It is extraordinary that he should demand we all meet in private to talk to him. I cannot understand it. What does he think will happen? Reference was made to full-time lobbyists but we were asked not to refer to it.

Senator Minihan expressed support for the McCartney sisters. He said that we should be wary of the use of the word "manslaughter" instead of "murder".

Senator Finucane welcomed Dr. Paisley's statement. He said that if we had gone ahead at the time — Dr. Paisley stopped because of the photograph — we would have ended up with egg on our faces. However, many of the political parties, including that of the said doctor, would have had egg on their faces. One wonders what is happening to the 5% of television licence money which was to go to outside broadcasters. We could ask the relevant Minister, Deputy Noel Dempsey, about that matter.

Senator Mooney referred to the media and his own position. He said he will get less next year. I hope the format will be changed. The Senator is no longer going to Europe because he is not a woman.