Frank Fahey (Galway West, Fianna Fail)

The issue of paid parental leave was raised by Senator O'Toole. I gave a comprehensive answer to this question on Second Stage. As parents, we would all agree that paid parental leave would be very desirable. I am sure we will reach a situation in this country where paid parental leave will exist. We should reflect on the combination of supports we have in this country. If the Senator wishes to make comparisons with Europe, then I am very happy to do so. The reality is that the total cost to the social insurance fund and to the Exchequer for paid parental leave in 2001 would have been over €200 million. That is a considerable amount of money. I am sure the social partners will agree to the desirability of paid parental leave in the future. We can look at the European social model, which Senator O'Toole has suggested we emulate, yet there are major problems for the French, German and Austrian Governments in trying to pay for the level of social contributions that exist in those countries. They are all looking to Ireland to see how we have had so much success with our economic and social model. While we would all wish to see increased payment for parental leave, a balance must be struck with the cost to the economy. I am sure the Senator will be aware of that more than anyone else. In principle, I do not have any difficulty with paid parental leave, but that is a matter for negotiation with the social partners as part of our economic and fiscal policy.

The Senator and I can have a pint tonight and talk about this further. As the House is aware, I have great regard for Senator O'Toole. However, I often think it would great to see him in a ministerial position where he has to make choices——