Derek McDowell (Labour)

——that puts some distance between them and us. Frank Lane was never like that. He always approached Members as people involved equally in the public service, which is as it should be. He was friendly and gave advice, which was sometimes quite caustic or clear, as to what should or should not be done. He did so always in a fashion intended to be helpful. I am sorry he is leaving. He bears his years well. If many of us were as fit and well as he is at his age, we would be happy. I wish him and his wife all the best on his retirement.