Mary O'Rourke (Fianna Fail)

Exactly. The Senator just wants his own way.

Senator Norris asked that the full terms be included in the debate. I wish to inform the House that we have gone to extraordinary lengths and we hope to have the Taoiseach here if the time issue can be resolved.

Senator Norris also referred to the report on the bullying of gay students and spoke about the doctor who told him of the experience. I read about it in the Irish Independent this morning. I agree that literature dealing with various sexual mores should be discussed in the classroom. The world is made up of all sorts of different people and it would be very helpful if young people knew that from an early age. As the Senator observed, boys' secondary schools adopt the wrong measures.

Senator McDowell asked for a debate on Northern Ireland. He said there was a need for clarity and I agree with him that people have faith in the process.

Senator Dardis asked if the IRA will give up criminality. I was very struck by the language used by the Tánaiste on Seán O'Rourke's programme last Sunday night. She used the word "criminality" quite clearly so it is not a new word which has just now emerged in the lexicon. Senator Dardis referred to the surveillance of Members of the Houses and I agree with him that it is entirely wrong. He said there were several unpalatable things which we will all have to swallow and I agree with him.

Senator Finucane was very passionate in his contribution. He has right on his side. It is a national as well as a local issue.

Senator Mansergh stated that we are close to agreement and should not draw back. He is correct that we need to show a degree of discipline in discussing the matter. We must also keep the objective firmly in mind and avoid clouding the issue.

Senator Henry asked a question concerning Committee Stage of the Health Bill. I hope the Tánaiste and Minister for Health and Children will come before the House as it will allow us to raise the issue. The Senator also called for a debate on bullying in schools, an issue also raised in recent days by Senator Glynn.

Senator Hanafin referred to the telecommunications regulator and noted the need for a proper communications strategy. SenatorCummins referred to issues which have been emerging. The Taoiseach's statement concerning Detective Garda Jerry McCabe, which gave rise to much ire on the part of his widow, Mrs. McCabe, was very public.