Michael McCarthy (Labour)

That is absolute nonsense. I have yet to be convinced it is not for electoral gain. I reiterate that I would welcome any attempt to convince me otherwise. I do not think it is a good idea to hold the referendum on 11 June. It would be wrong. I welcome the comments made by the Minister of State, Deputy O'Dea, on "Questions and Answers" on Monday night, without committing him to this as the reality of the situation is very different. It is characteristic of a wider view held in Government circles, whether in the Lower or Upper House. For an issue as serious as this, the Taoiseach and the Government would be much better off to engage in all-party talks. This was done, as Senator Ryan pointed out, when the issue of property rights was being discussed, and a reasoned and balanced debate took place. This referendum should be fought on the same basis. Unfortunately, that is not happening.