Brian Hayes (Fine Gael)

Where are they now? Many elements of the Fianna Fáil Party have a difficulty with the concept of a paper trail, but it is vital that a paper trail exists, that votes can be verified and that people have confidence in the process. The Minister, Deputy Cullen, is not imbuing the system with confidence. I understand that the Minister of State, Deputy Noel Ahern, gave further ammunition to those people who are opposed to this measure last night on RTE radio because of his performance. Yesterday the Taoiseach showed himself to be at sixes and sevens on this issue. We need clarity and independent commentary which currently——