Seanad debates

Thursday, 12 February 2004

11:00 am

Photo of Paschal MooneyPaschal Mooney (Fianna Fail)

I support the broad thrust of the suggestion by Senator Ryan, which was supported by Senator Norris, that we should have a debate on the Iraqi situation. We should consider this issue, particularly in light of Ireland's Presidency of the EU. What is the approach of the European Union and of Ireland to the ongoing horror and loss of life unfolding before us in Iraq?

I know it is difficult to talk about morality in a broad sense, but perhaps the Leader is considering having a debate about morality and about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. While I have enormous sympathy and understanding for the Palestinian cause and fully support the Government's call for the right of self-determination, I also know that if I were living in the State of Israel surrounded by the hostility that exists there, I would wish the government that represented me would ensure the protection of its citizens. That is another element, notwithstanding the criticism Israel gets about its proactive approach to rooting out terrorism in the occupied territory. We must take a balanced view because there are two sides to this intractable question.

I fully support Senator Higgins's call for a debate on the pernicious activity of lap dancing. We seem to be such a tolerant and liberal society that we accept without question that this has become the norm. I remember two years a former prostitute, who was leading the world-wide call for the elimination of lap dancing, said it was the first step on the road to prostitution. It is a serious issue. I agree with Senator Higgins that primary legislation is needed because the Garda and the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform have stated repeatedly to me and others who have raised this matter privately that the only way they can attack it is on the question of whether those working in lap dancing clubs have work permits. Illegal trafficking is taking place now.

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