Brendan Ryan (Labour)

It will cost rubbish. Fianna Fáil knows about rubbish.

There is a succession of agencies here. I am concerned that we have a grossly over-centralised system of Government, not a system of administration. We are doing nothing about that because the Department whose Minister is the author of this is the last bastion of Stalinism in Europe. It believes that the centre knows best for everybody, which is the reason it wants to control everything, including every Department and every major decision in every Department, and to retain centralised control over every decision taken by local government.