If the downside is that they lose local services, but the upside in terms of improved primary care and ambulance services is not delivered, what can one expect except tens of thousands of people on the streets of Nenagh and Ennis, which is what will happen? It will be almost impossible for those who would like to look at the positive side and to support the general policy thrust to do it because we do not expect that the plus side or the whole package will be delivered. Unfortunately, in the Estimates, there is all too much evidence for those who see in the Government a lack of willingness to deliver the improved primary care, ambulance services, etc.