Senator O'Toole echoed what Senator Brian Hayes said and warned that there may be a huge price to pay for the non-scolding of France and Germany on the pact. As big countries, Germany and France are seen as the head boys in Europe. There have been calls from all political leaders in the country for an easing of the spancelling of finance under the pact, particularly for infrastructure projects. When he was leader of the Labour Party, Deputy Quinn made a strong point about this and included it in the election manifesto. Most other leaders also called for a loosening of the rules for infrastructure projects. Perhaps the Minister for Finance is allowing this to happen so that he will have room to manoeuvre within the pact. While I do not know if this is true, it strikes me that may be the case.