It is important to try in some way to demagnetise the Dublin area. The national development plan dilutes this somewhat by calling all sorts of places growth points. To do this, one must have a small number of quite large counter-magnets in other places to provide the full gamut of urban living. One should ask why young people must move to these places and whether it has to do with the quality of life, the quality of choice, the scale of things and so on, which is important.