It is one thing to aspire to eliminate the disposal of waste over a period of one or two decades. However, it is quite another to seek to impose a moratorium on the development of thermal treatment or landfill capacity while we pursue such aspirations. We must be practical and make our decisions based on reality and experience, not aspiration. We cannot prevent and recycle all waste. There will always be residual waste, which must either be thermally treated or landfilled. We must face and address that problem.