I, too, was surprised that the Labour Party was not represented on that radio programme. With regard to the wider issue of Seanad reform, the most appropriate option is to wait for the sub-committee to produce its report and to have that report fully debated in the House. Several Senators have made submissions to the sub-committee and those submissions are welcome. We have also heard from the General Council of County Councils and the Association of Municipal Authorities. The best approach is to wait until the draft report is available and to debate it then.