In any negotiations like these, does anyone really think that if the detail of comparing like with like came out we would not have endless nit-picking from those who did not get 24% that one group got? Anyone who knows the least amount about industrial relations or who ever went to a meeting on behalf of any group to negotiate pay or conditions at any level – in the workplace, the office or with the Department of Finance – would know that one could never conduct negotiations like that. If that happened, or if we were so stupid as to do something like that, the groups which got 4% and saw the reason for that award would be up in arms and would look for an independent industrial panel and independent renegotiation. The system being suggested would bring us straight back to the relativities from which we are trying to move. Various groups got 4%, 6%, 8%, 15% and so on and we would be negotiating again under the system being suggested.