A good benchmark of any deal is when neither side is happy. It means that people have had to make compromises. Somebody asked me if I was happy with the benchmarking deal. Of course I was not happy with it. Nobody is ever happy at the outcome of negotiations. The Minister for Finance was utterly unhappy at the time because he wanted to do other things. He had to make concessions, the unions had to make concessions and IBEC had to make concessions. At the end of the day one arrives at a deal, signs off on it in blood and delivers on it. One takes the public pain that goes with that. The benchmark of industrial relations in the Irish public service has been that people stick by their word and deliver on it.