I entirely agree with the Leader when she says we must put the debate about costs into perspective and not lose our sense of outrage about what happened in Dublin in the 1980s. It was without doubt the most outrageous and systemic corruption of power seen in this State – or at least that we know of. It seems to have involved quite a number of people. It was systemic, happening weekly and monthly in Dublin County Council. Needless to say, none of us stands over it now but at the time a fair number of people seemed to find it acceptable. It is important that through the tribunals and the work of these Houses, we make it clear that it was not acceptable then and that it is not acceptable now. Not only is it important that those who did wrong in the 1980s and 1990s are exposed and punished; it is also important for the future of our political system that we set down a clear marker that such corrupt practices are simply not acceptable. We cannot put a cost on that marker, for it must be put down regardless.