With regard to the negotiations for the dairy farmer, we have to look at allowing young farmers who are coming in with small quotas an opportunity to get an increased quota from whatever surpluses or quotas are available. We must look at the smaller producer to allow him to develop and expand. I have no doubt that dairy farmers work hard. In the past they have done reasonably well from farming, far better than farmers with dry stock or that type of enterprise. We hope that they will be allowed to expand to a reasonable gallonage so that they can make a living for themselves and their families. I have seen many farmers in my time but very few retired or finished or sold out as millionaires. Most farmers worked hard, earned a good living and were always able to pay their way and that is what it is about. There is too much emphasis in all sections of life on becoming a multi-millionaire no matter in what business people are involved.