Jim Higgins (Fine Gael)

I am disappointed with the Minister of State's reply. I genuinely believe that in his heart of hearts he appreciates the validity of the arguments being put forward by me, Senator Mansergh and Senator O'Meara. The Minister of State said this House is proportionately well represented as if it was a concession. It is not a concession; we are well represented on the commission by right.

Senator Mansergh made the case as strongly and logically as possible. When there are ceremonial occasions such as joint sittings, the Cathaoirleach of the Seanad is brought in and is the second speaker. There is a range of other examples where the role and status of the Cathaoirleach is recognised. Yet, our chairman is simply a member of this commission to administer and regulate the affairs of both Houses, rather than being the acting or deputy chairperson in the event of the absence of the chairperson. The Bill states that "the commission may appoint a member of the commission to act as chairperson other than the Secretary General". However, there is no guarantee, although we all hope that will happen. I am at a loss to know why the Cathaoirleach cannot be pencilled in as the second in command in the event of the chairman not being present or able to carry out his or her functions.

Amendment put and declared lost.

Government amendment No. 13:

In page 8, subsection (2), lines 42 and 43, to delete "('the acting chairperson')" and substitute "('the deputy chairperson')".

Amendment agreed to.