There are huge issues and I do not know who we can trust. We must at some stage face the question. We can all sing the mantra: what happens if good people stay silent and do nothing, when they come for them, the others, and all the rest and there is nobody left to look after anybody? We have all been through it many times – we were neutral. We can be proudly neutral about the fact that while Hitler was exterminating millions in Europe and Pol Pot was exterminating millions in his country and so on, we were neutral. Where is the sense of national pride in this? What should we have done? I know that I am more comfortable celebrating the activities and contribution of the 15th International Brigade and its commitment to go to Spain to fight what it considered an evil and a wrong. I am more comfortable dealing with that issue than any other aspect of neutrality, which is important.