I do not know the answer to the questions posed about the consultants. I would be interested to hear the views of Senator Maurice Hayes on that because I know he has dealt with it, in some detail, in the North of Ireland. We must grasp the nettle of whether they should be confined to public work or should be allowed to also work with private patients. Professor Brennan makes one vital point above all others. If private people are using the public practice, they should pay for every penny of it, but that is not happening. The consultants have access to equipment bought by the taxpayer and this is not being paid for by private patients.