I am also surprised by the fact that all public patients seem to be given appointments with a consultant at the same time. If a consultant's clinic takes place between 2 p.m. and 4 p.m., all public patients arrive at 2 p.m. and wait. Private patients are given individual times for appointments. It seems difficult for some consultants to wear both private and public hats. I wish the Minister well in challenging this. We need to find ways to help him succeed.