I refer to institutions of which, for example, the Roman Catholic Church would be the proprietor. Does the Minister of State imagine that Catholic schools and institutions will be taken in? Are they private or public? They are certainly treated as private in terms of much of the equality legislation and they are excluded. It has always seemed extraordinary to me that a Christian organisation full of brotherly love, tolerance, etc., should want to get out of provisions on equality and fairness in employment, etc. Are they excluded or will they be included here, in the Minister of State's opinion?