I could see sense in the Minister's argument about protecting all interests. However, this really makes it difficult for the little person. In the case of every tribunal established since I entered the House 16 years ago, each Minister who has proposed one has said that it was to make it easier for the people, be it the Small Claims Court or whatever. The Minister knows what eventually happens. I saw an employment appeals tribunal recently involving one person where, as I think I mentioned last night, there were two senior counsels, one junior and I do not know how many advising solicitors. Tribunals are difficult enough, but at least in those situations people with experience can represent individuals and do something. Going into the District Court changes matters and there are all sorts of difficulties.