There has to be some cut off point at which kids generally, whether over or under 15, have to be out of the bar of licensed premises. I do not accept the proposition that this is anti-family. A hotel bar is a public bar and is in competition with the public bar across the road that is not a hotel. If I went to a hotel in rural Ireland and saw a notice above the door to the bar stating "No kids after 9 p.m." I would not decide to cancel my stay in that hotel because it is anti-family. That is a grotesque distortion of the reality. It is not anti-family.