If I have a rule which is better for hoteliers than for publicans, I know that the publicans will rise up as one and say that they are now at a disadvantage because families are all rushing down to the hotels for their evening drinks and deserting the pubs. This provision is not being put in as a piece of nanny-statery. We started from the proposition that we want to stop people under the age of 18 from drinking and from the proposition that people over 18 had to have a card and people under 18 were not be seen in a licensed premises at all.