Regarding the time at which children under 18 should vacate licensed premises, I have a different view to that enunciated by Senator Terry. I am inclined to suggest that the Minister make a distinction between summer time and winter time. There are people who will travel with their families – this is something we should encourage – on a Sunday and they may go for a drink, a meal or whatever on the way home. For people leaving the beach on a fine summer's evening, the 8 p.m. cut off point can be a bit tight.