There has been a concerted attempt for some years to persuade public opinion that we are no further forward than we were in the late 1980s in regard to the health service. That is nonsense. It must be remembered that healthy people only have limited contacts with the service and at any given time that is a majority of the population. There have been huge advances in staffing, modernisation of hospitals, operations being undertaken, new techniques and procedures. One only has to look at the Estimates volume to see that expenditure now accounts for 7.8% of GNP. I remember debates in which the Labour Party urged us to achieve the level of GNP Barry Desmond achieved in 1986, something like 7.3%. We are way beyond that point.