Senator Fitzgerald pointed out once again that the crime debate should take place in context and on a comparative basis, with figures and outcomes. I make no apology for the seriousness with which I view the issue. There is no doubt about this but I must balance it against the fact that we had the Minister here ten days ago. He attended the House for three hours and gave a very full account of himself, putting the figures on the table. Senator Quinn made the point when he spoke in that debate that in the end it comes down to personal responsibility. It is a matter of the person acting in harmony with society. That is a major point. However, I will bear the possibility of such a debate in mind. I hope we can have one as quickly as possible. I appreciate the right of Senator Brian Hayes or any other Senator to propose an amendment to the Order of Business.