Charlie McCreevy (Kildare North, Fianna Fail)

There would be some difficulty in training that number.

In regard to transport – the former Minister for Public Enterprise is present – I have come to the conclusion that Senator Mansergh may be correct. Senators may have noticed how our colleague across the water, John Prescott – he is not a particular friend of mine but I sat with him through a dinner one night in the United Kingdom and found him most entertaining – is up to his ears in difficulty regarding the rail network and overruns in regard to grandiose plans. We can learn from the United Kingdom's experience.