Senator Quinn referred to people in central and eastern Europe being worried about giving up one controller in Moscow for another in Brussels. The truth of the matter is, however, that if there was no European Union, they would be swapping one controller in Moscow for another in Berlin. Germany is so big in the centre of Europe that it will dominate its surroundings. The European Union regulates the way in which big powers can exert influence over small powers, as well as big companies over small ones. The European Union has been good for Ireland because it has provided us with a mechanism whereby we can ensure the British do not throw their weight around in this part of the world. Similarly for the Poles, the European Union will ensure Germany cannot throw its weight around in that part of the world. The choice for the countries concerned, therefore, is not between Moscow and Brussels but between Moscow and Berlin. The choice for us is not between Dublin and Brussels but between London and Brussels. It is much better to have these decisions taken in Brussels or Frankfurt where we have a say than in London as they used to be when our currency rates were set by the Bank of England in Threadneedle Street.