David Norris (Independent)

I am supporting my colleague and I am seeking a proper debate. The Leader, and various people on the Government side, asked why we could not get to section 12 of the Bill. The answer is that it is our responsibility to try to extract information and it is pretty difficult to do so when the Minister of State has no competence in the area and his advisers do not seem to know much either. This was the case yesterday, when we could not get answers. If this kind of legislation is to be rammed through the House and we cannot get answers from the Minister responsible, who is engaged elsewhere, we will stay here and do our best to act in a responsible way, as is required of us under the Constitution.