Joe O'Toole (Independent)

On Senator Mansergh's point, the words "relate to" are all over legislation, as the House will be aware. Whether it is ambivalent or otherwise, it is well used. It is no more ambivalent than the words "as far as is practicable", which appear in every piece of legislation I have ever seen. Somebody has to make a judgment about it and come to various conclusions. The reality is that we are now going to close down information. Even if it is only potentially wider, "contain" has a very contained meaning, whereas "relate to" has a much wider meaning. If they both have potential, there is just no comparison in terms of scale.