Joe O'Toole (Independent)

If the Senator finds it difficult to understand the reason things have been done in a particular way, that bears no comparison to the surprise on this side of the House on having perfectly framed amendments ruled out by the Chair. We also have to cope with major meetings of committees taking place at the same time as Report Stage in this House and not being provided with full information on issues. There is a great deal of new experience and the Opposition is learning all the time. Some of us have been out of government for 16 years.