David Norris (Independent)

To the position on the Bill. What we argued at the outset was that this was a complete and utter nonsense.

I was challenged by Senator Mansergh about my use of the word "corruption", and it appeared he was gathering himself up to see if I would withdraw it. I will not withdraw it and I will tell him what I mean by "corruption". Corruption occurs where healthy tissue deteriorates as a result of injury, abuse or disease. That is what is happening in the democratic process. It is corrupt. I found his contribution very engaging because he let slip the mask when he said there had not been corruption for five years. Was he suggesting there was masses of it in the five years preceding that terminal point?