If there is a perception that these positions are to be held by people who ought to be tame, house-trained, unobservant and docile members of prison committees instead of independent members, I will not use the term "deplore" but I am unhappy with people feeling that is what is expected of them by me, as Minister. I want to see any criticism of our prisons service, that is reasonable, intelligent and constructive, and not agenda driven. I do not want to see anodyne reports furnished to me which do not even correspond with my own impressions of visiting a prison as Minister. I do not want to have less observant reports put in annually than I would make if I committed my own thoughts to writing in the course of a visit. It does not impress me. Just in case anybody listening to this debate is a member of a prison visiting committee it would not incline me to re-appoint a person who had been unobservant or convenient in their own mind or who lacked independence in relation to the work done. Therefore, if people want to be re-appointed – I am not inviting them to go wild with criticism or whatever – they do not do me any favour by being unduly docile.