It is also interesting to note that in the debate at the time Thomas Johnson proposed that there should be at least two women, in the case of a women's prison, and a medical doctor, in the case of each institution, on every committee. For various reasons these proposals did not find favour. In fact, there were no women's prisons at the time as women were incarcerated in wings of men's prisons. The Minister of the day explained that most men would find it embarrassing to serve on a prison visiting committee because they might find themselves at variance with the prison doctor and in some professional embarrassment. It is also interesting to note that there was to be no remuneration – it was to be high-minded service not motivated by any more venial consideration.