We are saying on this side of the House that there is cross-party support for this fundamental reform which, in essence, is an issue of prisoner welfare. As Senator Terry pointed out, many people would like to serve on prison visiting committees, including doctors, teachers, people involved in training and rehabilitation, people who have a real contribution to make, notwithstanding the contribution political appointees can make. However, we must get the balance right, which is the substance of the motion before the House tonight.