The Minister claims to be a Minister for reform and I ask him to take this issue seriously. No one on this side of the House is suggesting that he as Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform should not have the power to appoint people to prison visiting committees and we are not suggesting that there should be no prison visiting committees. We are suggesting that where decisions are made in respect of appointments to these boards a system of public advertisement should be used and those who do not come from the party political base should be appointed. I am not suggesting that politicians should not be members of the board but the large predominance of party political appointees, be they councillors or others, leads one to the inexorable conclusion that there is abuse in the whole procedure.