The Minister referred to ethics and the Act of 2001. I accept the need for an ethical standard which applies to all local government employees. However there needs to be distinction between the codes of practice and compliance. Every member has an obligation to declare their interest but the system has become overly bureaucratic. It would not be the Minister's intention that people at the lower levels should have the same onus of compliance in terms of form-filling, etc., that applies at the higher levels, but there must be a standard.