Mary O'Rourke (Fianna Fail)

People are talking about leaks to the newspapers. Sometimes that is done for good reasons, at other times for mischievous reasons; one does not really know.

Senator Ryan wanted a debate on housing. Senator O'Toole and his comrades – comrades being the right word – managed to include the need for housing in the new programme, which is good. However, without making a political point, Mark Fitzgerald of Sherry Fitzgerald announced this morning that all of us who are middle-aged should leave our houses to live far away and give our houses to others. That is a ridiculous, sexist proposal. I am not giving out about Mark Fitzgerald—