I do not say these things because I do not like America, I say them because they are facts which underline the necessity of approaching this issue through the use of reason. We must contemplate the consequences of any chosen approach, even if that approach is indifference. We are well aware of what Saddam Hussein is like. While I do not wish to discuss the USA further, I resent its use of the phrase "the free world" to describe itself and its allies, particularly when its primary ally in the Middle East is a corrupt family oligarchy. The USA was quite happy to have Turkey as a member of NATO when brutal military regimes were in power there. I do not say this to suggest moral equivalence, I wish to convey that to start using the rhetoric of human rights, freedom and morality to justify something is dangerous. If such language is used selectively and cynically, it fails to convince and it undermines the concept of morality. That is what concerns me in this debate.