In relation to reducing waste and waste charges, we will have to go down the road of paying by weight. This must be the way forward. When people's pockets are hit – when they know they can reduce their payments by lowering the weight of their rubbish – they will make the effort to reduce it. It will put full responsibility back on the household. Householders want to throw the responsibility away and blame somebody else, calling the waste charges an extra tax. If they are made responsible, the amount of waste will be reduced. How do we educate the public about recycling? There is the potential for a huge programme. We have a great system in south Dublin – we went into the local schools and had parent meetings and evening meetings at which the separation of waste was demonstrated – and it is working.