Shane Ross (Independent)

—whatever Senator O'Toole calls it, because it will be whatever he calls it – we, in this House, should be the first to debate it. These pay deals are made outside this House and the Dáil. They are not even debated within parliamentary parties, yet I gather we are beneficiaries of them. I gather that last night the sticking point was that, for the third time, members of the public service were being asked to increase so-called productivity in return for the exorbitant benchmarking payment and that for the third time, the issue will be fudged. For the third time, they will not increase productivity. They are refusing to do so and will run rings around the Government, as Senator O'Toole always does.