Senator Higgins seems to be in denial that this is a small trading nation. He does not accept that the difficulties have been created because the level of taxation from large multinationals has fallen because their level of output has been reduced in the global market. In the current economic circumstances we must cut our cloth according to our measure. The Government is spending a lot of money running the country. However, there is a legitimate question as to whether taxpayers are getting value for money. This is why I am calling for reform of the health and transport services.