The Senators are right when they suggest that some of the antipathy reflected towards Europe is really antipathy towards an administrative process which does not adequately recognise the frailties of human beings and lumps everybody who makes an error on a form together with those who wish to be criminal. Nobody in this House or the other House – nobody I have ever met in public life – would support criminality. We want our administrators to operate with a modicum of humanity. That is one of the facets of the process at the heart of the Convention on the Future of Europe – issues such as simplification are being dealt with and people's views deserve to be taken on board.