I am not sure it should be left to the Minister to decide on routine fare prices. Much of the financial difficulties in CIE have come from the fact that it was never politically convenient for Governments to approve fare price rises. It is correct that the Government should have to approve abnormal fare price rises that would occur in addition to normal annual increases of the order of 5% of inflation. Maybe the difficulties would not be so great now if CIE had been allowed such normal increases.