I came to local politics in 1991 having been involved in community residents' associations activity in Dublin for the previous ten years. Having served on the old Dublin County Council and the recently formed Fingal County Council, from my own personal experience at a micro level I did not see any great conspiracy by councillors as is alleged by Mr. Frank Dunlop. I am not here to defend Mr. Frank Dunlop or other councillors, but I will give examples to this House of some of my experiences of the context, as Senator Ryan mentioned earlier, of the time in which we were dealing.