As a practising farmer, I believe there has been an extended whinge over a considerable time which has been entirely detrimental to farming putting its case at national level. It has got to the point now that when farmers complain, the general public shrug and say "That is the farmers again." When there are genuine complaints, as there were earlier this year with regard to the appalling weather, the general public just do not listen anymore. When there are genuine complaints about the returns to farming, the general public do not listen anymore because they have been fed on a diet of whingeing even when times were good. There is a significant political lesson there for farming organisations and it is one they should take to heart.