In relation to section 3, the Constitution states clearly that both Houses of the Oireachtas must meet in public session but the committees of both Houses have the power to meet in private. There is the potential for private meetings to take place between the Members and the Minister involved. I understand why that might happen, but this should be the exception rather than the rule. It is important that a private meeting is the last procedure before the Minister and committee scrutinise the decision. It would be wrong for us to allow private meetings to become normal practice in the Houses because that would disengage the public from the process. If we are to be successful with this we need publicity and also a change of heart, not just from the Members but from the media, which should devote more resources to covering the proceedings of both Houses as well as the committees.