I refer to my earlier remark about experience. Does experience matter? Ireland's experience in Europe has been overwhelmingly positive. The experienced voices in this debate, as opposed to some of the others who argue for a "No" vote, need at least to be listened to in the light of their experience, not just in terms of the quantity of arguments. The approach by which one says, "Give me three points for and three points against or ten points for and ten points against the treaty," denatures the quality of reason itself and should not be our primary way of doing things.